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Islam kom til Malaysia på 1400-tallet. Bortsett fra Indonesia er Malaysia ett av de ytterst få eksempler på at islam har gjort sitt inntog i et område på hovedsakelig fredelig vis. Det var sjøfarende handelsmenn som brakte islam til Malaysia, og da de europeiske kolonimaktene kom dit tidlig på 1500-tallet var islam etablert i Malaysia. De europeiske kolonimaktene som i forskjellige perioder hersket over forskjellige deler av Malaysia tvang ikke muslimene til å gå over til kristendom, slik muslimene har hatt tradisjon for å tvinge folk til å gå over til islam i områder de erobrer. Malaysia er et muslimsk land den dag i dag, Ca 60% av befolkningen er muslimer, 20% buddhister, 10% kristne, 5% hinduer og 5% tilhører diverse andre religioner, inklusive taoisme. Nå blir jo gjerne ikke Malaysia oppfattet som spesielt muslimsk, særlig ikke sammenlignet med f eks Saudi-Arabia, Iran og Pakistan. Det er nok i og for seg riktig, de mest groteske utslag av muslimsk barbari ser man ikke så mye av i Malaysia, men som det vil fremgå av det følgene er det nok langt fra så rosenrødt som det kan se ut til i turistreklamene. Og under overflaten ulmer det.

 

Malaysias konstitusjon er å finne på:

 

Constitution of  Malaysia

 

Å lese den blir man imidlertid ikke særlig mye klokere av. Den må være en av verdens mest kaotiske og uoversiktlige grunnlover Den har bestemmelser om alt mulig rart som ikke hører hjemme i en grunnlov, unntak fra bestemmelsene og unntak fra unntakene osv. Det som imidlertid er klart er at islam er statsreligion, men i prinsippet har andre religioner også visse rettigheter. Islam gis imidlertid en særstilling. Alle ikke-muslimske trossamfunn må ha godkjenning fra myndighetene for å bygge kirker, templer osv, men tilsvarende regler gjelder ikke når muslimer vil bygge moskeer. I motsetning til mange andre muslimske land har Malaysia ikke dødsstraff for frafall fra islam, men en  muslim som går over til en annen religion kan straffes med bøter og fengsel for ”rehabilitering”.

 

Den 21 juli 2004 falt det imidlertid en dom i Malaysias føderale høyesterett, en dom som er meget illevarslende for religionsfriheten i landet, i den grad det i det hele tatt kan snakkes om religionsfrihet i et muslimsk land. Fire frafalne muslimer hadde reist en sak for domstolen for å få dens medhold i at de hadde rett til selv å velge hvilken religion de ville bekjenne seg til. De fikk IKKE medhold:

 

Federal Court rejects appeal in apostasy case

Malaysia Kini Jul 21, 2004

The Federal Court this morning dismissed an appeal by four individuals who had renounced Islam in 1998, for a declaration that they have absolute right and freedom to practise the religion of their choice

 

Denne kjennelsen ledet til en rekke avisinnlegg bl a i avisen Malaysia Kini, innlegg som også kan leses på avisens nettsider. En av de som var først ute var en annen frafallen muslim. Hans innlegg er gjengitt nedenfor:

 

Apostates have no option but emigration

Muhammad Faisal

Malaysia Kini Aug 26, 2004

I would like to add my two cents on this emigration issue. I belong to a category of Malaysians who are considering emigrating due to the government's refusal to recognise my personal conscience and religious freedom. To put it in bluntly, I am what Islam would define as an 'apostate'. After the recent Federal Court ruling on the apostasy case, it seems that I would be in legal limbo indefinitely.

 

I challenge Dr G Walter and Shaukat Ali to educate me on what other alternative I have other than to emigrate. If I am not allowed to choose freely the religion that I believe in and be legally recognised for it but instead be constantly harassed socially and legally in Malaysia, the only practical thing is to leave Malaysia. Or maybe, perhaps I might just be some rubbish to say good riddance to?

 

For the record, I am not a convert to Islam who has had second thoughts. I was born a Muslim and decided to convert to another religion as a matter of personal conviction.

 

Konklusjonen som denne innsenderen trekker er vel i og for seg logisk nok. Kan han ikke praktisere den religion han tror på i Malaysia har han ikke stort annet å gjøre enn å emigrere til et annet land. Spørsmålet er hvor ikke-muslimer til slutt skal gjøre av seg etter hvert som denne kreftsvulsten som oppsto på menneskeheten i Arabias ørken for ca 1400 år sprer seg. Det er bare et spørsmål om tid før vi har tilsvarende tilstander i Norge, dvs på sett og vis har vi det allerede. Muslimer i Norge som forsøker å skifte religion trues på livet og må ofte leve i skjul. Talsmenn for muslimer er i TV-debatter gjentatte ganger blitt konfrontert med at islam forkynner dødsstaff for frafall, og de benekter det ikke.

 

I et annet leserinnlegg forsøker en kvinnelig muslim å bortforklare at roten til problemet ligger i islams lære, og i stedet legge skylden på malaysiske myndigheter. Innlegget hennes er gjengitt nedenfor.

 

Apostates angry with Islam or government?

Shairul Fazleena

Malaysia Kini Dec 2, 2004 1:44pm

I recently came across a website where purported apostates from Malaysia told their stories. I am a Singaporean and a proud Muslimah and reading the postings on that website has led me to the conclusion that Malaysian apostates are more angry with the Malaysian government than they are with Islam. I feel that they think Islam is the problem but only on the way Malaysia bases its policy with regards to it. I have engaged some of these apostates on the website and have been trying hard to show them that it is not Islam that has wronged them but people using Islam as an excuse to impose their will.

 

I am not writing to you to champion the apostates’ cause. I am only doing this so that the Malaysian government may consider reviewing their policy. In Singapore, people can renounce their religion as and when they like it and there is no pressure to practice one belief. It is wrong to force one to hold on to a religion that one doesn't believe in and this it contradicts the claim that Islam is not about force. Malaysian apostates, however, have confused themselves as to who or what is actually oppressing them and in some way, they have linked this to Islam.

 

While I respect the Malaysian government of trying to execute Islamic law as well as they can, I think punishing apostates is not relevant anymore. After all, Malaysia doesn’t stone to death Muslims caught for adultery, does it? If that can be overlooked, why not apostasy? I think that there is a ‘hadith’ saying that whenever we see or know a person of misconduct, we should first use all the authority we have to stop him or her, and if that fails then we have to talk to them and advise them, and if that too fails then we pray for them.

 

Malaysia has imprisoned and counselled its apostates but if they still choose to remain apostates then I think it is time for government to let them live their life. Let me stress here that I am not condoning or encouraging apostasy. But I think one should be given the choice to practise one’s beliefs. Forcing religion down somebody’s throat won't achieve the aim of having good Muslims and Muslimahs - this will only cause hate and contempt towards Islam. Remember, ‘God guides whom He pleases to the right path’.

 

Knapt en uke senere får hun svar i et nytt leserbrev fra en muslim som tar islams lære atskillig mer på alvor. Hans innlegg er gjengitt nedenfor:

 

Have zero tolerance for apostasy

Mohd Elfie Nieshaem Juferi

Dec 8, 04 1:40pm

I refer to the letter Apostates angry with Islam or government?

I, for one, am aware of the website that Shairul Fazleena is referring to. Although she asserts that she is not endorsing the apostates' cause, let us state here very clearly that her suggestion that the Malaysian government should ‘review’ their policy with regard to apostates is tantamount to mocking the Deen itself.

 

It is without a doubt that apostasy is a very serious offence in Islam, and there are no ‘ifs’ and ‘buts’ about it. However, individuals like Shairul are from the flock of ‘liberal Muslims’ who prefer to abandon the Qur'an and Sunnah injunction with regard to apostates in favour of their ‘values’ from the West concerning freedom of religion.

 

True, Islam does espouses the freedom of religion (Quran, 2:256). Freedom of religion, however, is not to be confused with freedom to simply leave the religion and put the Muslim ‘ummah’ in jeopardy.

 

Let's put it this way. Singapore is not Malaysia. If Muslims in Singapore want to tolerate apostasy at their whim and fancy, it is their business. That they are so far apart from the practice of Islam speaks for itself.

 

Shairul’s whimsical fancies about Islamic laws not being ‘relevant’ anymore in this day and age is a sign of how the liberal Muslims think. And just because there is no implementation of these laws is not an excuse to do away with them in totality. They claim that they accept the Qur'an as a Divine Book and yet they attempt to insult its laws at every juncture. It certainly sounds very hypocritical to me.

 

As a Muslim living and residing in Malaysia and one who believe in the implementation of Islamic values as a way of life, legitimising apostasy would be detrimental to the Islamic values as practiced by Muslims in Malaysia.

 

There should be zero tolerance to apostates and apostasy from Islam, and this should remain the official policy of the government of Malaysia.

 

Man må altså ikke “forveksle religionsfrihet med rett til å forlate islam”. Neivel, da vet vi hva muslimer legger i begrepet ”religionsfrihet”. Det er rett til å gå over til islam fra en annen religion, og muligens rett til å skifte mellom andre religioner enn islam også, men ikke rett til å forlate islam. Selvsagt er det slik, Muhammed var krystallklar på at det er dødsstraff for frafall fra islam, og samtlige fire lovskoler i sunni-islam og shia-islam fastslår også det.

 

De overgrep og den undertrykkelse som islam gir seg utslag i for Malaysia sitt vedkommende er de samme som man ser i andre muslimske land, f eks pisking som straff for utroskap:

 

Stiffer penalties for Muslim

UPI, 5 December, 1966

"KUALA LUMPUR, Dec. 5 (UPI) -- The government of Malaysia's resort island of Penang proposed Thursday stiffer penalties, including caning, for Muslims for criminal offenses under proposed amendments to religious laws. Mohd Shariff Omar, the island's State Religious Affairs Committee chairman, said the amendments would make the laws more comprehensive to suit the changing times. "The law will apply to all Muslims, regardless of whether they are locals or from Bangladesh, Pakistan or Indonesia,'' he said. The foreigners are mostly workers employed in Malaysia's construction, plantation and manufacturing businesses. He said caning would be imposed for criminal offenses such as prostitution, incest, adultery, pimping and homosexual activities."

 

En populær løgn blant muslimske spyttslikkere er at islam utvikler seg og moderniseres, og får muslimene bare litt tid på seg forsvinner de negative sidene av seg selv. Som det fremgår av oppslaget nedenfor et det slett ikke tilfelle, snarere tvert i mot:

 

Modern, and Moderate, Islam

16 September, 1997

(AsiaWeek): PRIME MINISTER MAHATHIR MOHAMAD'S call for reform of Malaysia's Islamic laws and the administration of Islam in the country reflects a growing public concern. Intolerant and repressive teachings and practices are slowly creeping into society. Nowhere is this more true than in matters relating to women's rights and fundamental liberties.

 

Nå er det imidlertid ikke helt sant at ikke islam moderniserer seg. Som det fremgår av oppslaget nedenfor tas moderne teknologi i bruk for å effektivisere undertrykkelse og mishandling av kvinner:

 

Kan skilles via tekstmelding

VG 6 juli 2001

En søknad om skilsmisse sendt som tekstmelding via mobiltelefon er like god som noe skjema. I hvert fall hvis du er mann, muslim og malaysier. En SMS-søknad om skilsmisse må betraktes som gyldig, sier en høytstående malaysisk tjenestemann i Malaysia til avisa Berita Harian. "Jeg skiller meg fra deg" er den korte beskjeden muslimske menn er pålagt av den islamske loven sharia å komme med. Kvinner som får slike beskjeder, er forpliktet til å melde fra til domstolen, som deretter kaller inn både mann og kone. Singapore skal allerede ha tillatt skilsmissesøknader via tekstmelding.

 

Rising polygamy in Malaysia sparks calls for more protection of first wife

Channel News Asia 2 November 2002

Polygamy seems to be catching on with more Malaysian men, and more women there also appear ready to share a husband. This has led to more calls for legislative reforms to protect the rights of the first wife. For many, a marriage is a once in a lifetime experience. But once is perhaps not enough for some. In Malaysia, polygamy is not uncommon. A man can have two, three or up to four wives.

 

Mens Saudi-Arabia forbød feiring av St Valentine gikk ikke Malaysia fullt så langt, men det var ikke så langt igjen:

 

Selangor religious officers detain 138 couples for 'indecency'

Strait Times via WorldNet Daily  15 feb 2002

WESTERN promiscuity or Islamic morality? This debate over values was reignited after religious officers in Selangor cracked down on unmarried Muslim couples spending Valentine's Day in parked cars, dark public parks and hotels. In an all-night operation code-named Red Rose, they arrested 138 couples, aged between 18 and 35, who were found 'behaving indecently'.They ranged from popular TV actors to students and civil servants.

 

En merkelig form for røde roser ! Og tilfellet var visst ikke enestående:

 

Malaysian couples arrested for cuddling

Ananova 17 June 2002

Fourteen young Muslim couples have been arrested in Malaysia for cuddling. Bernama national news agency says the arrests in a shopping centre were part of a crackdown by Islamic Religious Affairs Department officials. Police in a shopping mall in Alor Setar town, detained 28 people for breaching Islamic rules about khalwat, or close proximity. Some of the people were detained while watching a film in a cinema.

 

Indecency claim for hand-holders

News.com.au April 22, 2004 via Soldiers of Hindutva

A MALAYSIAN couple caught by enforcement officers holding hands in a public park have been charged in court with indecent behaviour, local media said today. Ooi Kean Tong, 22, was charged yesterday for allegedly hugging and kissing his girlfriend Siow Ai Wei, 20, in a Kuala Lumpur park, the ew Straits Times reported. Ooi pleaded not guilty to the charge of indecent behaviour and his case will be heard in court on July 21. If found guilty, he could face a maximum fine of 2,000 ringgit ($A722) or a year in jail or both.

 

Father’s wishes legal in Islam

The Star 5 April 2005 via FFI

A MUSLIM father can coerce his daughter to comply with his wishes to marry a person of the family's choice and it would be legal and binding in Islam, Kosmo! reported. However, the couple must be compatible with each other, the paper said, quoting Universiti Malaya professor Datuk Dr Mahmood Zubdi Abd Majaid.

 

He said Islam recognised such marriage because the father is considered the wali mujbir (authoritative custodian) of the girl. Dr Mahmood, who heads the Fiqh Usul department of the university's Islamic Studies Academy, said for as long as the woman remained a virgin, the father would be her custodian.

 

Dette er da også fullstendig i tråd med hva islamske skriftlærde har konkludert med så lenge islam har eksistert. Muhammed selv og hans aller nærmeste praktiserte selv tvangsekteskap.

 

For heit for Malaysia

Dagbladet Lørdag 13. juli 2002

Det var videoen «Live in Sydney» som ble for mye for sensur-myndighetene i Malaysia. Sammen med 194 andre videofilmer ble den forbudt i det puritanske landet i Sørøst-Asia. Ally McBeal og Friends led samme skjebne i går.

- For at vi skal klare å gi folket vårt god moral og gode verdier, må vi stanse importen av filmer som ikke passer, sier sensursjef Shaari Mohamad Noor til avisa The Star.

I det muslimske landet klipper de ivrig vekk kyssing og banning. Umoralske malaysiere kan likevel se både Ally McBeal og Friends via satellitt-kanalene. På det svært omfattende svarte markedet for film og musikk, har de også tilgang til all verdens syndige sceneshow, moroserier og porno til en billig penge. 1. april kom nye strengere sensur-regler for å trappe opp kampen mot all umoralen som strømmer mot dem fra omverdenen. (Bildet til venstre  er fra videoen som ble for sterk kost for muslimene i Malaysia. )

 

Muslim Leaders Pull Malaysian Movie

Yahoo News Thu Sep 5, 9:08 AM ET

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) - Islamic fundamentalists in a northern state pulled the plug on the premiere of a Malaysian movie after its director admitted that an actor had been filmed in the nude. Izi Yahya, who plays a villainous Japanese soldier in the World War II movie "Embun," revealed recently that he'd stripped for a rape scene.

 

Malaysian Islamists Attack Mariah Carey Ahead of Beirut Concert

Naharet 16 January 2004

Malaysia's Muslim opposition party has urged the government to cancel an upcoming concert by pop diva Mariah Carey (bildet til venstre), saying her performance is immoral and promotes un-Islamic values.

 

"Everyone knows Mariah Carey presents herself in a sexy, unacceptable and almost vulgar manner," Ahmad Sabki Yusof, a leader of the fundamentalist Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party's youth wing, said Thursday.

 

"She is not an appropriate role model for young Malaysians," he told The Associated Press.

 

Carey is scheduled to perform in Beirut on February 24.

 

Party officials handed a letter of protest to Ministry of Culture, Arts and Tourism officials Thursday urging that permission for the Feb. 22 concert at a 50,000-seat stadium in Kuala Lumpur be withdrawn.

 

Slike protester bl a mot poppkonserter er blitt stadig vanligere i Malaysia i det siste. Og vi som trodde at islam skulle ”moderniseres”, for det har jo Pudding-Erna sagt, så DA så. Malaysia er for øvrig ett av mange land med muslimsk flertall hvor europeisk kolonisering hadde en viss siviliserende virkning, men etter som kolonitiden kommer på avstand dukker den muslimske djevelskapen sin desiviliserende virkning opp igjen. Det er da ingen som tvinger noe til å høre (eller se) på Mariah Carey, muslimer som ikke liker henne kan bare holde seg borte. Mon tro hva dagens politisk halvkorrekte eller halvt ukorrekte i Norge vil ha å si når muslimene her til lands føler seg sterke nok til å prøve og hindre ting som poppkonserter.

 

Two Malaysia states order removal of Christmas baubles

Taiwan News 2002-11-19

Two Malaysian states have ordered shopping malls to strip their halls of Christmas decorations and focus instead on setting the mood for a Muslim festival that arrives earlier in December, officials said yesterday. "We are disappointed that they (the malls) are so influenced by Western culture," Chua Soi Lek, tourism chief in the southern state of Johor, told The Associated Press.

 

The action followed complaints from politicians and commentators in this mostly Muslim country that many shopping complexes were displaying Yuletide ornaments and ignoring Eid-Al-Fitr -- the celebration at the end of Ramadan, the holiest month of the Muslim calendar. Chua said the local government had directed malls to remove Christmas banners and other frills until after the first week of December, when Ramadan -- a time of fasting and other forms of abstinence -- is over.

 

Dette er Malaysia ikke alene om. Forbud mot juledekorasjoner dukker opp stadig flere vestlige land, inklusive Storbritannia og Australia.

 

Malaysia blir fra tid til annen trukket frem som eksempel på et moderat muslimsk land og på at islam kan moderniseres til noe menneskelig. Det er i og for seg korrekt at til muslimsk land å være er Malaysia forholdsvis moderat, men som det fremgår av oppslagene nedenfor er det ikke ”modernisering” som preger bildet. Det er snarere tvert i mot, dvs en utvikling mot et strengere muslimsk regime.

 

Oppose hudud laws, says Shahrizat

The Star Online 29 May 2002

KUALA LUMPUR: Women and Family Development Minister Datuk Shahrizat Abdul Jalil has urged women leaders in the country to join her in pressuring the Terengganu state government to withdraw its proposed Syariah Criminal Enactment which encouraged the discrimination of women. She said certain provisions in the draft of the Syariah Criminal Bill on Hudud and Qisas (revenge crime restitution) were “grossly unfair” to women.

 

Section 9 (2) of the Bill states that a woman who alleges rape but cannot provide clear or circumstantial evidence will be guilty of qazaf (slanderous accusation) and liable to be whipped 80 times. As proof, the victim must provide four Muslim male witnesses to the crime or alternatively, get the rapist to make a confession. Women and non-Muslims, male or female, cannot act as witnesses.

 

“It is impossible to provide witnesses because rapes usually happen in quiet and secluded places,” Shahrizat told reporters at her ministry yesterday.

 

Malaysia party stirs fresh fear with Islamic law

MSNBC 5 July 2002

Islamic hardliners in one Malaysian state are set to pass strict laws on Sunday setting penalties such as amputation and death by stoning for Muslims, even though they have little chance of imposing them for now. Nevertheless, the expected approval of the ''hudud'' penal code by the legislative assembly in opposition-controlled Terengganu is raising the spectre of extremism in multi-ethnic Malaysia as the nation's moderate leader prepares to step down in 2003.  The measures being pushed through by the Parti Islam se-Malaysia (PAS) cannot become common law as long as Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's coalition controls the country and defends its constitution, legal experts say. Muslims are only narrowly in the majority nationwide, but PAS dreams of turning Malaysia into a conservative Islamic state some day, and the party sees the hudud as a step to this.

 

Catholic Church rejects push for Islamic state

Singapore Strait Times

Malaysia's Catholic bishops have issued a rare press statement to express alarm and concern over Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad's declaration that Malaysia is an Islamic state. The Catholic Bishops' Conference of Malaysia, in a statement signed by the Archbishop of Kuala Lumpur Anthony Soter Fernandez, said it was also worried by moves towards imposing Islamic Syariah law in the opposition-led Terengganu state

 

Malaysian women fined in Islamic-run state for not wearing scarves

Yahoo News Fri Jun 14,12:34 AM ET

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia - Authorities in the capital of a Malaysian state run by Islamic fundamentalists have fined at least 120 Muslim women this year for not wearing religious headscarves. The women were mostly workers in restaurants and food stalls in Kota Bahru, 540 kilometers (335 miles) northeast of Kuala Lumpur, city public relations officer Azman Mohamad Daham was quoted as saying by Malaysian newspapers Friday.

 

Nik Aziz: Aim of dress code and ad guidelines is to 'curb immorality’

The Star 26 January 2003

The state government’s implementation of a dress code and advertisement guidelines is to curb the spread of immorality among the people, said PAS spiritual advisor Datuk Nik Aziz Nik Mat.  “Yes, we have asked Muslim women to cover up, while non-Muslims should dress decently. When there is no display of provocative behaviour, there is also no bad example for others and the young to ape,” he said when asked about the latest controversy arising from the Kota Baru Municipal Council’s order for some shops to remove print advertisements that contain pictures of “uncovered” women, some of whom were in provocative poses.

 

Frontline: Non-Muslim workers in Terengganu cannot wear ‘sexy’ clothes

New Strait Times, Jan 5, 2004

NON-Muslim women in the private sector in Terengganu will not be allowed to wear short-sleeved blouses, tight-fitting jeans, long skirts with slits or mini skirts during working hours soon. They should also not wear other figure-hugging or revealing dresses. "The Pas Government will not tolerate females, including those from different religions, wearing such clothes during working hours," Ladang State Assemblyman Dr Sulaiman Abdullah said yesterday.

 

The Kuala Terengganu Municipal Council president said Muslims in the private sector would have to adhere to the Islamic dress code which would require them to use scarves and wear loose clothes. The KTMC will distribute circulars on the dress code to businesses and employers with those failing to adhere risking loss of licence or a maximum compound fine of RM250.

 

Og så lurer vi på hvordan politisk halvkorrekte norske norske kvinner som “for så vidt” er kritiske til islam, men som “reagerer” på krass språkbruk fra FOMI vil “reagere” når muslimene vil bestemme hvordan de skal kle seg på job her til lands. Den ENESTE grunnen til at norske muslimer ennå ikke har kommet med slike krav er at de ikke står sterkt nok ENNÅ til å gjennomføre det, men det er bare et spørsmål om noen få tiår.

 

Aktiv forfølgelse av kristne og andre ikke-muslimer fra myndighetene sin side er ikke så utbredt i Malaysia, men det forekommer, og der myndighetene stopper tar gjerne det private initiativ over:

 

International Christian Concern

July 21, 2001 – The Marthoma Christian Community Center, in the city of Sungei Patani, was set on fire with damage estimated at 300,000 ringgits ($79,000).  Police told church authorities the Malaysian Militant Group (KMM, Kumpulan Militan Malaysia) were probably responsible. (Compass)

      

April 24, 2001 – A Muslim convert to Christianity was denied permission to have her identity card changed to reflect her religious conversion. The woman, who has already changed her name from Azlina Jailani to Lina Joy, was told by a judge that she must take up the issue with the Islamic Sharia Court. According to a 1976 law, Lina will not be able to have a Christian wedding ceremony as long as Islam is the religion reflected on her identity card. As an apostate she also faces possible "rehabilitation" to convince her to re-embrace the Islamic faith.

           

 January 12, 2001 - A Christian retreat center operated by the New Testament Church in Bukit Markisa was raided by police. Though admitting that the church center was a legal settlement and did not pose a threat to national security, Inspector General Tan Sri Norian Mai, said the raid will actually help the church by putting an end to allegations against it. 

 

Javel ! Hva med å raide noen moskeer i Norge, bare sånn for å vise at de ikke driver med noen uhumskheter ?

 

Bible Ban Shock in SE Asian Democracy

Crosswalk 18 April 2003

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) - As Christians around the world prepare to mark their most important holiday, hundreds of thousands of believers in southeast Asia face the prospect of celebrating Easter without free access to the Bible. In a decision indigenous Christians in eastern Malaysia have found incomprehensible, their government in Kuala Lumpur - which considers itself one of Asia's more successful democracies - has banned the Bible in their native tongue.

 

The Iban, the largest of 27 indigenous ethnic groups in Sarawak province on Borneo island, have since 1988 had access to the entire Bible in their own language, published by the Bible Society of Malaysia.

 

But now the mainly Muslim government's Home Ministry has named the Iban-language Bible as one of 35 publications it is banning because they are considered "detrimental to public peace."

 

Among the other books listed are Christian books in Bahasa Malaysia and Bahasa Indonesia, the national languages of those two countries. They include translations of books in English by well-known Western evangelical authors J.I. Packer and John Stott. Others are books on Islamic subjects.

 

The books were listed in a ministry statement that cited various publication laws and said the "printing, import, production, reproduction, sale, circulation, distribution and possession of books listed under the schedule are banned in the country." Anyone found guilty of breaching the ban faces up to three years in jail, fines of up to $5,200 or both.

 

About 9 percent of Malaysia's 23 million people are Christians, and most live in the east of the country. Iban is spoken by more than 400,000 people, members of a Borneo tribe that was once feared for its head-hunting.

 

Denne gangen matte imidlertid muslimene gjøre tilbaketog:

 

Stung By Outcry, Malaysia Gov't Reverses Bible Ban

Crosswalk 2 May 2003

Pacific Rim Bureau (CNSNews.com) - An outcry from Malaysian Christians has prompted the government of the predominantly Muslim country to reverse its ban on Bibles published in the language of an indigenous ethnic group. The decision was announced by acting Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi, who said banning the Iban-language Bible would spark anger in the Christian community.

 

The edition was banned last month, 15 years after it was first published to serve the needs of a community of erstwhile headhunters on Borneo island, many of whom have converted from animism to Christianity.  The decision to ban the Iban Bible, plus 34 other religious books considered "detrimental to public peace," was attributed to officials at the Home Ministry, acting on the advice of the Department of Islamic Development

 

Med Malaysia sitt rykte som et av de mer moderate muslimske land skulle man forvente at landet ville være klar i sin fordømmelse av terrorangrepene 11 september og støtte til USA sin krig mot terrorisme. Men logikk og islam går gjerne dårlig sammen. Som det fremgår av de to neste oppslagene var Malaysia blant de argeste kritikerne av USA sin krigføring i Afghanistan:

 

Mahathir boosted by terrorism stance

CNN October 31, 2001 Posted: 9:31 PM EST (0231 GMT)

Malaysia's wily and long-serving Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad is using the issue of terrorism to improve his political credentials at home and abroad. But like Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri, who also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks on the United States, Dr Mahathir is worried that the U.S.-led bombing of Afghanistan -- especially if continued into the coming Muslim holy month of Ramadan -- will cause a large number of civilian casualities and create a backlash in the Islamic world, even among moderate Muslims. The Malaysian government is now calling for an immediate halt to the bombing to prevent what the Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar warns would be a dangerous situation that could destabilize Islamic states supporting the campaign to eradicate terrorism and thus split the fragile international coalition led by the U.S. and Britain.

 

Enten lyver mannen, eller så er han klar over at bin Laden har bred støtte for sin terror blant muslimer i alminnelighet. Hvis det bare var en liten del av muslimene som støttet terrorisme i alminnelighet og terrorangrepene 11 september i særdeleshet ville det ikke være noen grunn for de bekymringer som Malaysias statsminister gir uttrykk for ovenfor.

 

Nå kan det imidlertid se ut som om hans frykt ikke var helt ubegrunnet, også i Malaysia ble kirker angrepet og ødelagt under bombingen av Afghanistan:

 

Five Churches Attacked

(Compass) - Five churches were attacked during the last two weeks in October, and police blame arsonists and vandals. But some church sources are questioning the true motives. "It is disturbing to note that the incidents all occurred in these last two weeks, since the U.S. started bombing Afghanistan," said a church source. The most recent attack occurred October 27 when the Christ Community Center in Subang Jaya was looted and set on fire.

 

On October 27, the Christ Community Center in Subang Jaya, Malaysia, was looted and set on fire.

 

Bildet til venstre viser en av de ødelagte kirkene.

 

Det lykkes imidlertid ikke Malaysia å få andre ASEAN-land med på å beskytte Taliban og Al Qaida:

 

ASEAN won't back Malaysia over airstrikes

CNN November 4, 2001 Posted: 7:15 PM EST (0015 GMT)

BANDAR SERI BEGAWAN, Brunei -- Southeast Asian leaders have pledged to work more closely to fight terrorism and refused to back a bid by Malaysia for the group to jointly urge a halt to U.S.-led airstrikes on Afghanistan.

 

Til tross for den dårlig skulte støtten til Taliban og Al Qaida på bortebane har Malaysia slått meget hardt ned på det de har klart å avdekke av lignende ting på hjemmebane:

 

Sect leaders sentenced to death

China Daily 12/29/2001

KUALA LUMPUR: A court in Malaysia yesterday sentenced three leaders of a Muslim sect to death by hanging after convicting them of armed rebellion to create an Islamic state in the multi-cultural nation. Life sentences were handed down to 16 other members of the Al-Ma'unah movement, who surrendered along with their comrades after a shoot-out in the jungle of northern Malaysia in the middle of last year.

 

Malaysia arrests 7 for al-Qaida links

WordNet Daily 19 January 2002

Malaysian police have arrested seven more people with suspected links to Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida network as part of a widening dragnet on Islamic militants, officials said Saturday… Police have accused Kumpulan Militan Malaysia members of bombings, robberies and murder, apart from harboring a long-term plan to overthrow Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad’s government and creating a purist Islamic state in mostly-Muslim but secular Malaysia.

 

Malaysian Muslim school had a militant secret

Reuters Asia  21 November, 2002 10:14 GMT+08:00 

For the villagers who lived nearby, the parents and children at the Luqmanul Hakiem religious school were outsiders. Some came from elsewhere in Malaysia while others came from neighbouring Singapore and Indonesia. They all had one thing in common -- a desire to follow a purer form of Islam.

 

But some, say police, shared something more -- they took a secret oath of allegiance to Jemaah Islamiah, the shadowy Southeast Asian militant network blamed for the Bali bomb blasts. "I suspected something was not right at that school," village headman Saad Shamin said in Sungai Redan, his kampung or village on the other side of a hill from the school in the southern Malaysian state of Johor.

 

The madrassah, or school, was shut down after a police raid in January. Villagers who work in the nearby plantations and factories have expressed shock at the mention of one familiar name after another in media reports on Southeast Asia's war on terror. Police investigating the Bali bombings, which killed more than 180 people, most of them Western tourists, say three of the six Indonesian suspects had a link with the school.

 

Religious schools 'breeding ground for future terrorists'

The Strait Times 18 January 2003

Warning the government of the threat posed by these schools to society, a think tank urges it to place them under its tight control. Privately run religious schools are a breeding ground for future Muslim terrorists and should be revamped and placed under strict government control, said an independent Malaysian think tank.

 

Religious schools run by individuals or groups linked to Parti Islam SeMalaysia - like this madrasah in Kuala Terengganu - are said to have become centres for extremism and intolerence towards other religions. Prime Minister Mahatir Mohamad says the authorities would no longer assist in "spoiling the future" of the children by helping such schools to continue.

 

'The government must now watch these SARs more closely to ensure their students are not recruited by terrorist groups. We have in the past neglected them,' said MSRC executive director Abdul Razak Baginda.

 

Politiker vil stene sexforbrydere

Kristelig Dagblad 14 januar 2003 

Malaysisk politiker ønsker offentlig stening af både seksualforbrydere og utro kvinder

Sexforbrydere skal offentligt stenes til døde. Det mener den malaysiske politiker Nik Aziz, der er leder af landets næststørste parti, det religiøst funderede PAS. Opfordringen kommer på et tidspunkt, hvor der ellers synes at være fremskridt på området i Iran og Nigeria, der tidligere har været udsat for hård international kritik for at udføre steninger.

 

'Suicide bombers in Singapore attack plot' arrested

Sydney Morning Herald November 27 2002

Malaysia has arrested three members of a terrorist suicide bomb squad involved in a thwarted plot to attack Western embassies in Singapore, officials said. The trio are among four members of an Islamic extremist militant group linked to al-Qaeda who were arrested November 16-20 in Johor, a southern state lying opposite the island of Singapore, an official said yesterday on condition of anonymity. The squad was part of a back-up unit in a plot to use truck bombs to level the US, British and Australian embassies, the official said.

 

Hvordan man skal fortolke sympati for Taliban og Al Qaida på bortebane med en tøff linje på hjemmebane kan sikkert diskuteres. Det mest naturlige er å tro at opptreden på bortebane er et forsøk på å demme opp for fundamentalistiske strømminger på hjemmebane, og at opptreden på hjemmebane er til skrekk og advarsel av samme grunn. Det må i tilfelle bety at man er bekymret for fremvekst av militant fundamentalisme og terrorisme blant muslimene i Malaysia. Hvis det neste oppslaget medfører riktighet er frykten ikke ubegrunnet:

 

Malaysisk kaptajn bag angrebet den 11. september

Politiken  27 jan 2002

Malaysia var det primære udgangspunkt for terroristangrebet mod USA den 11. september. Det skriver det amerikanske magasin Newsweek, og magasinet citerer hemmelige data fra det amerikanske forbundspoliti, FBI. Ifølge Newsweek mener FBI, at den tidligere malaysiske militærkaptajn, Yazid Sufaat, som også var medlem af den ekstremistiske islamiske gruppe Jemaah Islamiah, etablerede et omfattende netværk i Sydøstasien for at hjælpe den terrormistænkte Osama bin Laden med angrebene.

 

No policy-making role for non-Muslims in Islamic state: Hadi

Malaysiakini Aug 25th, 2002

The role of non-Muslims in the government will only be confined to those not related to policy making in an Islamic state, Terengganu Menteri Besar Abdul Hadi Awang said in Penang today.

 

He said this was due to the fact that ministers involved in policy making must adopt the ideology of the ruling government.

 

"Just like in the United States, when the Republican wins, the US president is a Republican," he told the 100-odd participants who attended a lunch date with the menteri besar in Hotel Grand Continental.

 

"Likewise, in an Islamic state, the leaders must be those who are Muslims. This is common throughout the world," he added.

 

Helt korrekt, men hvorfor ikke innføre det prinsippet motsatt vei også, at muslimer ikke kan ha ledende stillinger i ikke-muslimske land ?

 

Malaysian Islamic opposition leader warns of Muslim backlash, possible new terror attacks if U.S. hits Iraq

Yahoo News Sep 12, 2002

KUALA TERENGGANU, Malaysia - The leader of Malaysia's biggest Islamic opposition party has accused the West waging a "crusade" against Muslims since Sept. 11 and warned that U.S. military strikes against Iraq would raise the risk of more terrorist assaults inside America. Abdul Hadi Awang, who campaigns for what his supporters say is fundamentalist Islam for this Southeast Asian nation, said Thursday that Washington has demonized Osama bin Laden ( news - web sites) and Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) without proof and ignored abuses against Muslims by Israel and Russia.

 

Malaysia criticizes Russian leader for outburst on Islam, circumcision

Yahoo News Fri Nov 15, 7:05 AM ET

Malaysia accused Russia's president Friday of insulting Muslims when he challenged a journalist questioning the war in Chechnya (news - web sites) to convert to Islam and be circumcised. Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar called Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites)'s remarks, made Monday during a European Union (news - web sites) news conference, "nauseating" and a mockery of the religion.

 

Malaysia unimpressed with US handling of anti-Islam groups

New Strait Times 15 Nov 2002

Malaysia is not impressed with the way the United States Government is handling the anti-Islam extremist groups in that country, Foreign Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar said today. He said the US should be prepared to punish these groups in the same way it is demanding other governments around the world to act against Islamic extremists.

 

"These anti-Islam extremists pose as much threat to global security as any terrorists groups because their lies about Islam could fan more hatred which could spark more violance and atrocities against innocent people.

 

Og hvor mange fly har anti-islamister crashet inn i skyskrapere ? Hvor mange selvmordsbomber her de utløst ? Hvor mange kidnappinger har de stått bak ?

 

A mother's 'Perilous Journey' revealed

Traverse City Record Eagle 24 November 2002

- Patricia Sutherland successfully spirited her children out of Malaysia, danger several years ago

 

Dette er en lang historie som må leses i sin helhet, men det er bryderiet verdt.

 

Muslim militants led double life in Malaysia

Manila Times 14 December 2002

To the villagers of Sungai Manggis in Malaysia, he was just another part-time kebab seller and peddler of potions and cures. Today, Riduan Isamuddin is better known as Hambali, Southeast Asia’s most-wanted man.

 

Terror Suspects' Children Training

December 17, 2003, 2:39 AM EST

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Anticipating their own capture or death, Southeast Asian Islamic extremists sent their sons to Pakistan for training in how to attack Western targets so they could take over as the next generation of terrorist leaders, The Associated Press has learned. In a crackdown on the practice, five Malaysian students, including four teenagers, have been jailed without trial here following raids on Islamic boarding schools in Karachi, which had sent them on field trips to get firsthand experience of Islamic militant operations.

 

The students underwent weapons and explosives training in Afghanistan and Kashmir, and some met al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden before the U.S.-led Afghan war started in late 2001, Malaysia police told AP.

 

BARN gis med andre ord terroropplæring i Pakistan – En av USAs “allierte” i  den maskeraden de kaller “krig mot terror”.

 

Non-Muslims can't hire Muslim maid?

New Strait Times March 11, 2003 

The Immigration Department is studying the possibility of disallowing non-Muslims from employing Muslim maids following reports that some have been asked to undertake tasks which were against their religion by employers. Its director-general Datuk Mohd Jamal Kamdi said the measure was being considered as part of efforts to address weaknesses and problems in the hiring of foreign domestic helpers. 

 

At present, non-Muslims are allowed to hire Muslim maids but they are required to sign a contract stipulating that they will not ask them to handle or cook food deemed haram by the religion, and that they must also be allowed to perform their prayers. Muslim domestic helpers must also be willing to work for non-Muslim employers. Mohd Jamal said although there were rules regarding the hiring of domestic helpers by non-Muslim employers, there were still reports alleging that maids were forced to handle pork, and not allowed to perform their prayers.

 

"Since these incidents are occurring, we will have to consider the possibility of no longer allowing non-Muslims to hire Muslim domestic helpers," he told reporters after attending the Home Ministry's monthly gathering.

 

Er det dette som kaller integrering ? Islam har vært i Malaysia i hundrevis av år før den kom til Norge, men så ”integrerte” er altså muslimene der.

 

Sensitive times in Malaysia

Asia Times 23 July 2003

Many middle-class Malaysians raised eyebrows last week when they heard that the authorities had refused to grant a political-satire group any more permits to perform in the capital, Kuala Lumpur.

 

The Instant Cafe Theatre Company had until then enjoyed a successful run of its "The 2nd First Annual Bolehwood Awards 2003" - Bolehwood here parodying the nothing-is-impossible "Malaysia Boleh" (Malaysia Can) spirit touted by the government in a country where Bollywood movies enjoy a sizable following. Unfortunately, thin-skinned city councilors - unelected political appointees of the ruling coalition - failed to see the humor in the plot for a variety of reasons and stopped the run.

 

It would be easy to see this as an isolated incident of censorship by overzealous councilors. But it should also be seen in the light of city council actions elsewhere in Malaysia. Last month, in Ipoh city, city councilors fined 30 unmarried non-Muslim couples RM30 (about US$8) for holding hands in a bid to keep the city "morally clean". (Government concern and adverse publicity later forced the council to suspend its "no holding hands" rule.) A new ruling by the Johor Baru city council from this year requires written approval from Muslim neighbors before seeking a dog license. In recent weeks, the authorities have also moved to crack down on pirated and pornographic video compact discs.

 

All these moves appear aimed at projecting a certain image of the government as the moral guardian of society and are probably not coincidental. They suggest that the government is trying to improve its moral standing among the people, especially in the light of the challenge that the conservative opposition Islamic party, Parti Islam Se-Malaysia, is presenting.

 

Council: Dance ban applies to all women

The Star 11August 2003

Non-Muslim women, like their Muslim counterparts, cannot sing and dance in public places like hotels in PAS-ruled Terengganu. Dr Sulaiman:‘The ban should not be construed as an erosion of rights ’ Kuala Terengganu Municipal Council president Dr Sulaiman Abdullah said they must abide by the same policy drawn by the state government, which applied to Muslims.

 

It was against Islamic principles for Muslim women to perform publicly as only male performers were allowed, he said, adding: “The ban should not be construed as an erosion of the rights of non-Muslims.

 

Islamists target improper hairstyles in Malaysia

The Straits Times Asia News August 24th, 2003

Muslims with hairdos deemed improper can be hauled up by the local authorities in Kelantan and given a state-sponsored snip to get a 'decent' haircut.

 

Det er for øvrig tydeligvis ikke bare eksotiske frisyrer muslimene i Malaysia vil ha en slutt på. Lebestift er også et problem.

 

Leppestift innbyr til voldtekt

VG 2 september 2003

 –Kvinner som bruker leppestift og parfyme, inviterer til voldtekt, sier en malaysisk politiker. Kvinnegrupper i Malaysia protesterer mot det de kaller hårreisende påstander fra islamisten Nik Aziz Nik Mat. Nik Aziz, som er regjeringssjef i delstaten Kelantan nordøst i Malaysia, hevder at bruk av skaut kan være nok til å hisse opp menn seksuelt.

 

-Leppestift, spesielt den blanke typen, er enda verre, og parfyme totalt forkastelig, sa han i en tale sist helg. Malaysiske feministgrupper fordømmer påstandene, som mange finner mer latterlige enn provoserende.

 

Det kan nok tenkes at både feministene og andre både i Malaysia og Norge setter latteren fast i halsen når vi begynner å få tilstander som i Kashmir hvor ikke-muslimske (hindu) kvinner blir skutt i bena bare for å gå i bukser. Det vil før eller senere (helst før) skje i Norge med mindre masseinvasjonen av muslimske voldsaper som Bondevik leder blir stoppet og han personlig og hele halal-regjeringen hans blir stilt personlig ansvarlig for hver tåre og hver blodsdråpe som den perverse sataniske kulten de importerer fører med seg.

 

Bildet til høyre : Reklame for voldtekt ? Imam-datteren fra Montreal, Yasmeen Ghauri, gjør reklame for en leppestift fra Christian Dior.

 

Så kan man jo lure på om en gift kvinne som ikke bruker lepestift er beskyttet fra å bli voldtatt av sin egen mann, oppslaget nedenfor tyder ikke på det:

 

Malaysian rape law provokes storm

BBC 23 August 2004

Women's groups in Malaysia have reacted angrily after one of the country's most senior Islamic clerics opposed calls for new laws to protect women from rape within marriage. Malaysia's official human rights commission had asked parliament to make marital rape a crime.

 

However, the chief cleric or mufti of the state of Perak said that such a move is against Islam. The status of women in Islamic law is one of the most fiercely-contested issues in Malaysia. According to the mufti of Perak, women are subject to their husband's desires. A husband has the right to be intimate with his wife and the wife must obey, he told one local newspaper. If she refuses, the woman is "nusyuz" - disobedient.

 

"If the wife refuses, then the rule of 'nusyuz' (disobedient) applies and the husband is not required to provide financial assistance to her," said mufti Harussani Zakaria. Islamic lawyers have voiced their support for the mufti, saying that a woman may only refuse her husband sex if he has a sexually transmitted disease.

 

Voldtekt i ekteskap er OK i følge islamsk leder

VG Debatt 25 August

 

 

MB: Sexy dress a cause of crime

The Star Online 11 March 2005 via JihadWatch

Kelantan Mentri Besar Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat has accused women who wear revealing clothes of giving the impression that they are selling their bodies.

 

“Women who wear such clothes are contributing to the rise in sex crimes and that is why I am in favour of any move to curb such dressing,” he told reporters after launching the Kelantan Reading Festival 2005 here yesterday. Nik Aziz said he was in favour of a dress code for non-Muslims as it would help to reduce sex crimes. 

 

He was asked to comment on the proposal by the council here to introduce a dress code for non-Muslims working in supermarkets. The mentri besar said talk about the dress code started 10 years ago.  His comments drew flak from various quarters. Wanita MCA chief Datuk Dr Ng Yen Yen said Nik Aziz's comments showed that he was totally divorced from reality and his statements showed his ignorance of gender issues.

 

“I have come to a stage where I have given up (commenting) on what Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz says. Doesn’t he realise that most sex crime victims are fully dressed from head to toe and some of them are children? 

 

“Someone with that kind of mindset on gender issues is an obstacle to the progress of women. Wanita MCA is concerned that he is taking his guidelines into non-Muslim areas and it is not up to the state to dictate dress codes.” Kelantan MCA chief Datuk Dr Fong Chan Onn said the party would protest if the dress code was enforced.

 

“The move to compel non-Muslims to abide by the dress code is an oppression of their rights,” he added. Sisters in Islam and Women’s Aid Organisation volunteer Nabila Nasir said if the way women dressed made them victims of sexual crimes, then women in baju kurung and headscarves as well as girls in school uniforms would not be raped and killed. 

 

“Hvorfor har ingen tenkt på dette før” spør JihadWatch lett sarkastisk i sin omtale av denne saken. Det er selvfølgelig kvinnenes skyld at de blir voldtatt når de kler seg som de gjør, innfører man krav til at kvinner skal kle seg muslimsk vil de heller ikke bli voldtatt.

 

Problemet er bare at noen HAR tenkt på det før, nemlig en av PK-Norges mest patetiske ”eksperter”, Unni Wikan. Hun har prestert å gi norske jenter som blir ”beriket” med muslimsk voldtekt skylden fordi de kler seg som de gjør. Det er verdt å merke seg at selv de muslimske kvinnene som kommenterer dette i oppslaget i The Star avviser dette. Unni Wikan er mer ”islamsk” enn muslimene selv !

 

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Denne barnefordelingssaken fra Malaysia er uhyre interessant med tanke på Quisling-Erna sine planer om å opprette en Sharia-domstol i Norge. Den illustrerer på en utmerket måte hvilke absurde utslag man får ved å etablere et eget rettsystem for muslimer.

 

New Strait Times 15 September 2003

In Malaysia, Muslims come under the Syariah judicial system while non-Muslims come under the civil judicial system. But which system has overriding jurisdiction when a civil marriage breaks up and a spouse converts to Islam?

 

SHAMALA Sathiyaseelan, 30, got married in November 1998 in a Hindu ceremony. Four years later, her husband left her to marry a Muslim woman.

 

Upon his conversion, Shamala initiated High Court proceedings to ask for custody of their two children. Meanwhile, against her wishes, her estranged husband had converted their children and was able to get a custody order from the Selangor Syariah High Court.

 

On April 17, 2003, the High Court issued an order in favour of Shamala. She was given de facto custody and the husband was allowed to see the children over the weekends. The husband was also ordered by the High Court to pay RM250 a month for maintenance and was prohibited from taking the children out of Alor Star, where they lived.

 

In response, the husband went to the Syariah Court to get a separate custody order. On May 8, the Selangor Syariah High Court granted him a hadanah (custody) order. Two weeks later, on one of his weekend visits, he took the children out of Alor Star. He had used a civil court order to get access to the children and then relied on the Syariah Court order to keep them.

 

Currently, the children are with him and Shamala has reasonable access to them. At the same time, the husband has also initiated divorce proceedings at the Hulu Langat Syariah Court. As a result, Shamala has been summoned to the Syariah Court for both custody and divorce proceedings.

 

However, it is Shamala's position that as a person of another faith, a Hindu, in her case, she is not subject to the jurisdiction of a Syariah Court. Clearly, she is at a disadvantage and faces several forms of discrimination:

 

1. Despite being an equal guardian by law, she is deprived of the right to decide the religion of her children as her husband had converted them without her consultation and agreement. By law in Malaysia, both parents have an equal right to decide the religion of their children if under the age of 18. This applies to all parents, Muslim and non-Muslim alike.

 

2. She is deprived of the right to have a say in the custody of her children as the Syariah Court has predominantly given custody to the converted husband without taking into consideration the mother's rights.

 

3. She is deprived of the right to have a say in the dissolution of her marriage as divorce proceedings can be initiated in the Syariah Court without her attendance or participation.

 

4. She is subject to the jurisdiction of a judicial system that has no jurisdiction on non-Muslims.

 

Last week, the High Court found Shamala's ex-husband in contempt of court for violating the custody order and has ruled that he return the children to her. This is the reality of Malaysia's double legal jurisdiction. And Shamala is not alone. Countless of non-Muslim women whose husbands have converted to Islam have had their rights violated in areas like custody, maintenance and equal access to the law.

 

Non-Muslim mother denied justice

Malaysiakini Wed Apr 21st, 2004

The Malaysian Federal Constitution 3(1) states that, ‘Islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practiced in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation. In Shamala Sathyaseelan vs. Muhammad Ridzwan Mogarajah; Mogarajah had converted his two children aged two and three to Islam after his own personal conversion. Justice Faiza Thamby Chik had referred the case to the Syariah Court and eventually delivers a verdict in favor of the Muslim father. Justice Faiza also claimed that the father had the capacity to convert the children to Islam because:

 

a) The wife did not challenge his own conversion nor seek a divorce when he converted; and

 

b) He is the natural father of the said children and a Muslim.

 

Justice Faiza concluded by claiming that only the Syariah Court has the capacity and expertise to hear this case and therefore, the mother should take her application to the Federal Territory Religious Council. This is an unwise judgment due to the following points:

 

a) It is a violation of the basic religious rights of the non-Muslim minority in Malaysia.

 

b) It contradicts Section 5 of the Guardianship of Infants Act.

 

c) Malaysia’s ratification of the Convention against All Forms of Discrimination against Women and the Convention on the Rights of the Child is not being observed and practiced by the Malaysian judiciary.

 

d) It enables a disgruntled father an easy way to gain custody of his children by only converting to Islam.

 

e) The lack of protection to the non-Muslim female citizen to fight for the legal custody of her children as the non-Muslim mother has no legal locus standi to seek relief under Syariah law.

 

Islam is a social justice system, but the Malaysian judiciary system, has conveniently denied justice to this non-Muslim mother in her struggle for custody rights. This has created the circumstance of forcing the non-Muslims to accept the judgment of the Syariah Court. This is not what the Malaysian constitution meant. In Shamala Sathyaseelan vs. Muhammad Ridzwan Mogarajah case, Justice Faiza failed to recognise:

 

a) The motives of Mogarajah’s conversion to Islam. If Mogarajah converted purely for child custody, then judgment should take this into consideration.

 

b)That the custody case of the children should be heard by the court after the parent’s divorce proceedings or before the conversion of Mogarajah to Islam.

 

c) That the Syariah Court should not be involved in cases that involves inter-faith family law.

 

d) That although there is no law governing non-Muslim parental and religious rights in Malaysia, the courts need to exercise wisdom and analyse such cases rather than conveniently passing their responsibilities to the Syariah Court.

 

Denne historien er verdt å merke seg. Før eller senere vil muslimene forlange Sharia innført i Norge. De vil helt sikkert først si at det kun skal gjelde muslimer, så det er ikke noe å frykte for ikke-muslimer. Denne historien illustrerer det meningsløse i å ha to rettsystemer som man har i Malaysia. I stedet for to rettsystemer blir det i praksis ett system for URETT, som alt som har sitt opphav i islam.

 

Malaysian ministers retract memo on religious rights

Yahoo News 21 January 2006

Malaysia's non-Muslim ministers have withdrawn a controversial memorandum which called on Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to protect the rights of religious minorities, local media said. Eight of the cabinet ministers who submitted the unprecedented memorandum -- which critics say constituted a breach of protocol -- have withdrawn it, with only one signatory remaining non-committal, said the New Straits Times.

 

"As advised by the PM, submitting the memo is procedurally inappropriate. Following his advice, we have withdrawn the memo," Housing and Local Government Minister Ong Ka Ting said in a joint statement to the official Bernama news agency....

 

The ministers came under fire from several colleagues at Wednesday's weekly cabinet meeting after they submitted the memo, which calls for a review of laws and the constitution where they infringe on minorities' rights. Their unusual move followed the controversial Muslim burial of well-known mountaineer M Moorthy over his Hindu wife's protests, which sparked outrage among religious minorities.

 

Moorthy was found to have converted to Islam by a sharia court in which his non-Muslim wife had no say. A civil court later refused to rule on the religious court's findings. Abdullah said he met several of the non-Muslim ministers at his residence over the weekend to convince them to retract the memorandum.

 

"At the meeting, I said they should withdraw the memorandum and they agreed," Abdullah was quoted as saying by the New Straits Times. "When we are members of the same team there is no restriction on what we discuss and talk about. Use this opportunity to the fullest. We are all in one team, have one goal, one ambition and a way to discuss," he told Bernama.

 

On Friday he called for calm over the issue, warning the country's political stability could be threatened if tempers frayed. Religious minorities in mainly-Muslim Malaysia say non-Muslims are increasingly losing out in legal disputes to Muslims, whose matters are heard in sharia courts in the country's dual legal system.

 

Malaysia PM: Arm Islam, Fight Jews

CBS News 16 October 2003

The biggest summit of Islamic leaders in three years opened Thursday with calls for the world's 1.3 billion Muslims to unite against "a few million Jews" who allegedly rule the world by controlling the major powers.

 

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said Muslims for years believed mistakenly that Islam rejected new technology and progress. He urged Muslims worldwide to ignore teachings by religious fundamentalists that scientific studies are somehow un-Islamic.

 

"We need guns and rockets, bombs and warplanes, tanks and warships for our defense," Mahathir told leaders from 57 nations gathered for a summit of the Organization of the Islamic Conference in Malaysia's new capital, Putrajaya.

 

"But because we are discouraged from learning of science and mathematics ... today we have no capacity to produce our weapons for our defense," said Mahathir, chairman of the two-day summit.

 

Det er over en milliard muslimer i verden, antakelig er tallet nå ca 1.2 milliarder. Hva er det så lederne for muslimske land er opptatt av når de møtes ? Jo det er å hisse til hat mot noen få millioner jøder ! Det sier i grunnen det meste om den perverse kulten de bekjenner seg til.

 

Kota Baru to be declared ‘Islamic City’

The Star Online 21 oktober via JihadWatch & APS Forum

The PAS-led state government is set to declare Kota Baru as an “Islamic City” next year and turn the state capital into a model of Islamic management. Several large banners proclaiming “Kota Baru Bandaraya Islam 2005” (Kota Baru Islamic City 2005) have been hung up here.

 

Takiyuddin Hassan, the chairman of the State Public Administration, Local Government and Housing Committee, said Islamic management would be introduced by the Kota Baru Municipal Council (MPKB) by March. He said a steering committee had been formed to prepare a concept for an “Islamic City” that was acceptable to all races.

 

MPKB may impose a condition for new buildings in the town to feature Islamic architectural designs, he added. – Bernama

 

Islamsk arkitektur ? Den finnes knapt i det hele tatt. Det muslimene påberoper seg i så måte er for det meste tyvegods fra kulturer og sivilisasjoner som islam har overfalt og langt på vei ødelagt, ref ”Hvilken muslimsk sivilisasjon”  og ”Islams desiviliserende virkning”.

 

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Frafalne muslimer i Malaysia har nylig kommet på internet med en egen site:

 

Murtads from Malaysia

In July a brand new website was launched about Murtads from Malaysia

This is a site about, and especially for, Malaysian apostates of Islam. But it is highly interesting, and very informative, for all of us, about life conditions for apostates in an Islamic country. The situation for Malaysian ex-Muslims is very hard:

 

·         Two states in Malysia have death penalty for apostasy.

·         An Imam, the police or the state can take a child into custody if the parent converts from Islam to another faith.

 

Fra det “moderate” Malaysia

 

I den grad de profesjonelle og islamofile yrkesløgnerne som kontrollerer det meste av nyhetsformidling i Norge og Vesten for øvrig vier Malaysia i alminnelighet, og islam i Malaysia i særdeleshet, noen oppmerksomhet er det typisk som eksempel på et såkalt ”moderat” muslimsk land. Nå er dette selvsagt relativt. Sammenligner man Malaysia med for eksempel Saudi-Arabia eller Pakistan kan man med en viss rett betegne Malaysia som moderat. Hvis derimot et såkalt ”kristent” land hadde praktisert det å være kristent på samme måte som Malaysia praktiserer det å være muslimsk ville vedkommende land umiddelbart blitt stemplet som ultraekstremistisk. I det øyeblikk man legger samme målestokk på noe som helst muslimsk som man bruker på noe som helst sivilisert ( dvs ikke-muslimsk) forsvinner islams eksistensberettigelse som dugg for solen for ethvert noenlunde mentalt oppegående menneske.

 

Den 30 2007 hadde både Magazinet, Dagen og til og med Islamposten en historie som til fulle illustrerer det. I korthet handler historien om en kristen kvinne i Malaysia som 30 mai 2007 tapte sin lange kamp for å få konverteringen fra islam offisielt godkjent. Lina Joy har i seks år kjempet for å få fjernet ordet islam fra identitetskortet sitt, men onsdag bestemte retten at slike avgjørelser må tas av religiøse sharia-domstoler.

 

Hvis man et øyeblikk transplanterer denne saken til Norge gir det grobunn for en del refleksjoner. La oss forestille oss en norsk kvinne, født inn i en kristen familie og døpt i Den norske kirke. I voksen alder konverterer hun til islam. Bare tanken på at religiøs tilhørighet skal stå i passet ville vært nærmest utenkelig i Norge. Men om det nå gjorde det ville tanken på at hun skulle måtte gå rettens vei for å få det forandret fra ”kristen” til ”muslim” ville vært enda mer utenkelig. Og at en norsk rett på toppen av det skulle nekte henne å få dette forandret ville ha reist ikke bare en storm, men orkan av protester både fra muslimene og fra den islamofile ormeyngelen.

 

Men i et muslimsk land kan dette skje, og de motbydelige klysene av karbonbasert spesialavfall som forfattet artikkelen som Norsk Taqiya Byrå (NTB) sendte ut om saken kaller landet MODERAT! Og tilhengerne av denne perverse dødskulten skal liksom lære OSS noe om toleranse og mangfold.

 

”Moderat” – KYSS KATTA!

 

”Toleranse og mangfold” - DRA TIL H….

 

Å tolerere dette intolerante og perverse svineriet på norsk jord er å bidra til at vi får malaysiske tilstander her også på veien mot det som verre er, f eks pakistanske tilstander.

 

Mot Sharia i det “moderate” Malaysia

 

Den 30 august 2007 feiret Malaysia 50-års dagen for sin såkalte ”uavhengighet” fra Ummah Kingdom (bildet til venstre). Til stede var selvsagt også en representant fra emir-familien i Londonistan, nærmere bestemt ”prins” Andrew. Samtidig med dette forbereder landets regjering diskusjoner om forandringer som vil revolusjonere landets (u)rettsystem ved at muslimsk lov (Sharia) vil bli innført i langt mer omfattende grad enn hva tilfellet er i dag.

 

Nå har faktisk Malaysia allerede en form for kvasi-sharia ved at man har både sekulære domstoler og sharia-domstoler. Det som sorterer under sistnevnte er først og fremst familie(u)rett, dvs skilsmisse og arvesaker, og da i utgangspunktet kun for muslimer. Dette har imidlertid fungert dårligere og dårligere i praksis ved at saker hvor partene er både muslimer og ikke-muslimer havner i sharia-domstoler, og ikke-muslimer dermed blir dømt etter sharia-lover. Det var selvfølgelig å legge grunnsteinen til et slikt system det satans sharia-ludderet Erna Solberg også var ute etter da hun i sin tid som statsråd for partiet for terror, apartheid og etnisk rensning presset på for å opprette sharia-domstoler i Norge.

 

Og nå vil man altså ta skrittet fullt ut i Malaysia og innføre sharia på bred basis. Dette skaper naturlig nok stor frykt og uro hos det ikke-muslimske mindretallet som består av  både hinduer, kristne og buddhister, og som til sammen utgjør ca 40 % av befolkningen. Initiativet til innføring av ”full sharia-pakke” kommer fra landets høyesterettsjustitiarius, Ahmad Fairuz. Statsminister Abdul Badawi benekter også at Malaysia er en sekulær stat, og en talsmann for Det islamske parti ønsket forslaget om innføring av sharia velkommen. Han la imidlertid til at høyesterettsjustitiarius sin jobb var å anvende lovene, og ikke å lage dem.

 

Malaysia blir jo gjerne fremstilt som et såkalt ”moderat” muslimsk land. Sammenlignet med f eks Saudi-Arabia, Iran og Pakistan er det, eller har det i det minste vært, det. Men som utviklingen viser, både i Malaysia og andre såkalt ”moderate” muslimske land, skjer det en radikalisering av muslimene også der. Og her er det viktig å presisere at det er muslimene som radikaliseres, det er ikke islam. Islam ER radikal i utgangspunktet, radikalt intolerant, radikalt voldelig og radikalt undertrykkende, kort sagt radikalt jævlig.

 

Når muslimer radikaliseres betyr det ikke noe annet enn at de begynner å ta islam mer på alvor. Og det er altså trenden i en rekke land som, ikke uten en viss rett, har vært betraktet som ”moderate”. Dette rimer selvsagt ikke i det hele tatt med det den islamofile ormeyngelen forsøker å innbille oss om ”modernisering” av islam. Uttykket er for øvrig komplett idiotisk. Muhammed var islams siste profet og Koranen er Allahs siste og endelige ord til menneskeheten inntil dommedag. Islam har selv låst døra for modernisering og smeltet om nøkkelen.

 

Under påvirkning av vestlig sivilisasjon i kolonitiden kan man si at muslimene til en viss grad er blitt ”modernisert”, men som tilfellet med Malaysia illustrerer, når de overlates til å styre seg selv går det bakover igjen.

 

Kilde:

Malaysia considers switch to Islamic law

The Telegraph 1 September 2007 via DhimmiWatch

 

Malaysisk ”moderasjon”

 

Land som Egypt, Indonesia og Malaysia fremstilles og omtales gjerne som såkalt ”moderate” muslimske land av yrkesløgnerne i sharia-sensurerte halal-medier i Norge og andre vestlige land. Nå er det selvsagt en viss forskjell på disse landene og land som Saudi-Arabia, Iran og Pakistan. Men hvor stor er forskjellen egentlig, og kanskje like viktig, hvordan utvikler situasjonen seg, blir avstanden større eller mindre til land som selv den islamofile ormeyngelen ikke tør å omtale som ”moderate”? Skjer det en radikalisering, eller skjer det en moderasjon ?

 

Før man går nærmere inn på det er det en ting som er svært viktig å presisere i slike sammenhenger. Når det er snakk om radikalisering er det alltid muslimene som radikaliseres, ikke islam. Islam er radikal i utgangspunktet, radikalt aggressiv, radikalt voldelig, radikalt intolerant og radikalt undertrykkende, kort sagt radikalt jævlig.

 

Ikke alle som kaller seg muslimer tar imidlertid alle sider ved islam like alvorlig til alle tider og steder. At muslimer radikaliseres innebærer kort og godt, eller rettere sagt kort og vondt, at de tar islam mer på alvor, at de så og si blir mer muslimske. Når det gjelder Malaysia har det i lengre tid pågått en klar radikalisering av muslimene, en radikalisering som har gitt seg utslag på mange vis.

 

Den nordlige provinsen Kelantan (markert med rødt på kartet til venstre) er regjert av det såkalte Pan-Malaysian Islamic Party. Der ble det for en tid tilbake innført en lov som påla supermarked å ha separate kassakøer for mannlige og kvinnelige kunder. Dette skulle angivelig være for å ”beskytte” kvinnene. Hvis ikke muslimske malaysiske menn kan stå i en kassakø sammen med kvinner uten å trakassere eller klå på dem sier det i tilfelle mest om muslimske menn. Det er neimen ikke rart om de da går bananas med voldtekter når de kommer til Vesten.

 

Uansett har supermarked i det nordlige Malaysia ikke tatt loven om separate kassakøer særlig alvorlig. Men det blir de nok pent nødt til å gjøre nå. De lokale myndighetene har nemlig kunngjort at denne loven nå vil bli håndhevet langt strengere, og supermarked som fortsetter å ignorere den kan vente seg kraftige bøter.

 

Dette er for øvrig bare ett av mange tegn på radikaliseringen i Malaysia. I midten av desember 2007 konfiskerte myndighetene kristne barnebøker fra flere bokhandlere. Begrunnelsen for konfiskeringen var at bøkene inneholdt bilder av Moses og Abraham. Begge er såkalte ”profeter” i islam, og å avbilde dem er dermed i strid med muslimsk lov.

 

De fleste har vel fått med seg at det er i strid med muslimsk lov å avbilde Muhammed. Det muslimske billedforbudet stopper imidlertid slett ikke der, selv om det først og fremst er det muslimene har kjørt på i Vesten. Islam gjør egentlig ”krav” på alle profeter i Bibelen, inklusive Jesus som islam betrakter som en profet, og ikke som Guds sønn. Når det slås ned på avbildninger av bibelske profeter selv i et såkalt ”moderat” land som Malaysia er det nok bare et spørsmål om tid før kristne også i Vesten må regne med å bli angrepet av muslimer for avbildninger av Jesus og andre bibelske personer.

Bildet til høyre: Scener som dette er vel kanskje ikke hva man forventer å finne i det såkalte ”moderate” Malaysia, men det viser altså kvinnelige studenter i Kota Baru, provinshovedstaden i Kelantan , den nordlige grenseprovinsen mot Thailand. Provinsen var for øvrig en del av Thailand frem til 1948 da området ble avstått til Malaysia.

 

Kilder:

Malaysia Islamic State to Enforce Separate Lines for Women, Men at Supermarkets

FOX News 22 January 2008 via DhimmiWatch

 

Malaysia seizes Christian books

Washington Times 22 January 2008 via DhimmiWatch

 

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Avslutningsvis er det nok et forhold ved Malaysia som bør trekkes frem, som også ble påpekt når det gjelder Egypt. Malaysia er et populært turistmål, og turistreklamer for landet er en gjenganger på diverse fjernsynskanaler, bl a CNN. Som turistreklamer flest prøver de å lokke folk til landet ved å vise frem hva de har å by på også av folkeliv og kultur. Til tross for at 60% av befolkningen er muslimer et det INTET av det de der prøver å lokke folk med som er av islamsk opprinnelse. Buddhisttempler som bringer tankene hen på ”The Road to Mandalay” vises gjerne frem, men sjelden eller  aldri moskeer eller noe annet islamsk.

 

 

Slik presenterer gjerne Malaysia seg i turistreklamen. Ikke mye av islamsk opprinnelse der, tvert i mot det er forbudt etter islam (Bildet til høyre er fra hinduistisk dukketeater).  At islam ikke brukes når landet skal presenteres utad er ikke så rart. Hva er det islam har å bidra med ? Jo, ødelagte kirker,  pisking, terror, ”røde roser” og skilsmisse pr SMS !

 

Sist oppdatert: 23. mars 2008

 

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